In article <3847q0$46l at bbs.pnl.gov>, jl_bryant at pnl.gov (Janet Bryant) says:
>>In article <1994Sep27.221559.5512 at rivers>, tb02 at rivers.acc.uwrf.edu says:
>>>>I am doing a study on the low participation of women in science
>>(particularly in chemistry and physics). I would like to get input from
>>anyone with anpinion or experiance related to this tipopic. Points
>>to consider would be: discrimination in the classroom, exclusion of
>>women in classroom discussion, verbal discouragement from teachers or
>>peers, "uncool" stereotypes of science people, and anything else yuoou
>>can think of. If you have access to any good data or resources on this
>>topic, please mention that too.
>>-
>>thomas.l.buchanan at uwrf.edu.>>>======================
To: jl_bryant at pnl.gov
From: jl_bryant at pnl.gov (Janet Bryant)
Subject: Re: women in science
Organization: Battelle Pacific Northwest Labs
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 94 09:19:50 PST
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In article <3847q0$46l at bbs.pnl.gov>, you say:
>>In article <1994Sep27.221559.5512 at rivers>, tb02 at rivers.acc.uwrf.edu says:
>>>>I am doing a study on the low participation of women in science
>>(particularly in chemistry and physics). I would like to get input from
>>anyone with anpinion or experiance related to this tipopic. Points
>>to consider would be: discrimination in the classroom, exclusion of
>>women in classroom discussion, verbal discouragement from teachers or
>>peers, "uncool" stereotypes of science people, and anything else yuoou
>>can think of. If you have access to any good data or resources on this
>>topic, please mention that too.
>>-
>>thomas.l.buchanan at uwrf.edu.>>>======================
>Some of the best resources I am aware of on this subject:
>>The Association for Women In Science (AWIS). (1993). "A Hand Up:
>Women Mentoring Women in Science". Washington, D.C
>ISBN #0-9634590-2-3
>=Has a forward by Bernadine Healy (Director of the the National
>Institutes of Health) that is (in and of itself) full of a wealth of
>references to informational studies on this subject.
>>>The American Association of University Women. (1992). "How Schools
>Shortchange Girls." Washington, D.C.
>>>Girgus, Joan S., and Catherine A. Sanderson. (Sept 1988) "Women and
>Science: An alliance gone awry". (Discussion paper prepared for the Science
>Advisory Committee, Pew Science Program in Undergraduate Education).
>Philadelphia: Pew Charitable Trusts.
>>>National Science Foundation. (1992). "Women and minorities in science
>and engineering: An Update". Washington, D.C.
>>>Seymour, Elaine, and Hewitt, Nancy. (1992). "Factors contributing to high
>attrition rates among science and engineering undergraduate majors".
>(Report prepared for the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation). New York: Alfred P. Sloan
>Foundation.
>>>That should get you started. As a senior research scientist at Pacific
>Northwest Laboratory in Richland, WA, I am intrigued by this whole subject.
>I'm the product of parochial schools in Chicago, IL (read that to mean: taught
>by nuns for 13 years....:-)
>and yet was encouraged to be good at what I am good at....math and science.
>>I am also very stubborn. Which according to the above studies seems to
>be correlated at least to longevity in the field, if not, success.
>>regards.
>>Janet Bryant
>jl_bryant at pnl.gov>"opinions are mine. all mine. no one else dares to claim them, especially my
>employer...."
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Thomas: I also wanted to share a personal recollection from my
college days (that's 18 years ago)....
The chairman of my chemistry dept. (male, p-chem prof) saw that I
was partying all night; learning to chug beer; and still pulling straight
A's in a double major of chem and mathmatics.
He angrily told me that I'd "...never graduate with a chemistry degree from
his department. Not as long as he was chairman." and "Why don't
you get married and have babies instead and not waste all of our time!"
I very deliberately told him that not only would I graduate with a chem
degree, I would do so with honor, and win the award for top graduating
chem senior while doing so. With or without his blessings.
I had to take him for p-chem my senior year. I had a perfect 4.0 in chem
up til then. He gave me my first C of my academic career. And I thanked
him...because a C is still passing. ( I deserved a B, and had the records
to prove it...)
Anyway. I performed real research as an undergrad under the tutelage of
my organic professor. That was the first year they awarded a "joint" award
in chemistry. to me and to a straight A, double major (also a woman) in
biology and chem. She is now an MD in the Midwest.
I went back to visit 6 years out of school. My organic professor was now
the department chair. (still is) We're working out the details of cooperative research
between my DOE project and that department at a small liberal arts college
in the midwest.
I told you I was stubborn.
Any other questions? It was fun to think about why I went into this
craziness once in a while....
Janet
jl_bryant at pnl.gov
Pacific Northwest Laboratories
Richland, WA
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